Apr 15, 2013





Red Marks in Grid Patterns - Summary of Symptoms and History

(Edited and Updated, most recently October 18th, 2017; Originally published 4/15/13)

Grid mark cases are reported in from all over the world, indicating this phenomenon is not an isolated incident. The typical case is this:  an individual wakes up to find a series of red dots in a grid pattern somewhere on his/her body, with no recollection as to how it got there, and no pain or discomfort associated with the site. Unable to identify a cause, they search online, posting threads on medical sites, paranormal sites, and UFO/alien research sites.

Some of them find me, and I have made it my mission to collect as much data as I can to some day solve the mystery behind these marks, whether the cause be of a natural process science is yet aware of, or something unnatural. I do not prescribe to any one belief in the matter, and try to maintain an open mind.

This summary is a brief analysis of two years of investigation (2013-2015), and should serve as an introduction to what my team has termed the red grid mark phenomenon (RGMP). My case reports and related posts on the subject are archived on the Investigations Page of this site. Please note that we only publish reports on cases we have received significant enough information, detail, and verification on to represent the phenomenon. The number of published cases on this website represents less than one-tenth of the total cases we are aware of. 

[New Cases: My team has reached our final thoughts on this subject and are no longer investigating new cases. This post is meant as an introduction to the phenomenon. If you would like to review our research, analyses, case studies, photo collections, and conclusions, we have compiled a dossier for experiencers and curious readers to purchase here.]


Here are the physical symptoms and circumstances reported:
  • a series of evenly spaced dots arranged in a close grid pattern, forming a triangular, circular, or octagonal (sometimes referred to as a 'honeycomb') shape;
  • most individuals discover their marks after waking from sleep (day or night);
  • grid marks have appeared on the legs, arms, hands, shoulders, chest, buttocks, and forehead;
  • appears spontaneously with no apparent source;
  • dots are typically aligned in diagonal rows;
  • each individual dots ranges in size from a little more than pin pricks to perhaps 2 cm in diameter;
  • total length of the entire pattern can range from 1 inch to 6 inches across, so far;
  • individual dots are irregular in shape to one another, that is to say they are not perfect shapes, not always circular or dot-like;
  • skin of the affected area is not raised or indented (no bumps or grooves), rather the marks appear subdermal, resembling in some case blood blisters, or hickey-like bruises in two others;
  • mark begins to fade within hours of occurrence;
  • may remain visible for days or weeks;
  • leaves no scar after fully disappeared;
  • pain, discomfort, aching are rare (one case);
  • sensation of heat or minor burning felt at site prior to or during appearance of marks in at least 2 cases; 
  • no recollection of pressure, tingling, pinching, or anything at all that would have drawn their attention to the site while it was produced;
  • no reports of itchiness or swelling at or around site to suggest skin reaction, allergy, disease;
  • no accompanying symptoms of illness;
  • a few recall bizarre vivid dreams around the time of the marks' appearance;
  • less than 20% (3/17) damp from having severely sweated while they slept, prompting some to take shower upon waking wherein they notice the marks;
  • experiencers assert they had done nothing to warrant the appearance of the mark like coming in contact with a heated instrument, fabrics, or other textured objects that may account for the grid pattern;
  • less than 20% report recurrence, or having had multiple occurrences of marks, not always in the same place or pattern


HISTORY

In 1967, known as the Falcon Lake Incident, Stephen Michalak examined an unidentified circular aircraft, before it blasted a hot gas at him, creating the rectangular grid pattern seen below on his abdomen. He was prospecting at the time, searching for earth minerals in the Jack Pine woods of Whiteshell Provincial Park at Falcon Lake. Around noon, his inspection of his latest find of a quartz vein was interrupted by the sound of geese and a pair of red cigar-shaped objects in the sky.

Stephen Michalak in hospital bed after an encounter with an unmanned UAC. He was treated for radiation sickness. (Source: http://thenightsky.org/michalak.html)

One of the objects came down and landed on a rock some 165 ft away, having changed into a circular craft with a dome. He sketched it silently for a half hour to produce the following image.


 Sketch of UAC Michalak encountered at Falcon Lake, with diagrams of the hatch and exhaust vent that could blend into the rest of the craft's outer shell seamlessly. Note its estimated size to be between 35 and 40 feet across, and its height to be tall enough for a grown man to stand up in (10 ft).

Michalak finally moved closer to investigate when a hatch dropped open. He could hear voices talking to one another, and tried to call out to them. First in English, then in five other languages he could think of. When no one responded, he continued forward. He peeked his head in through the opening to find computerized panels and lights. Finding no one inside, he pulled away. The hatch closed and became flush, indistinguishable from the rest of the ship. There were no seams, just the same polished glass that made its exterior. 

He rounded the side its bottom, feeling its smooth surface, when what he called 'an exhaust vent' appeared in the glass before him.

"It was about 9" high by 6" wide, and contained a uniform pattern of round holes, each about 1/16 inch in diameter. A blast of hot gas shot from these holes onto his chest, setting his shirt and undershirt on fire and causing him severe pain. He tore off his burning garments and threw them to the ground. He looked up in time to see the craft depart like the first, and felt a rush of air as it ascended."

Michalak noticed a few oddities about the area around him. A circle of pin needles where the craft had been, the smell of burning electrical field and sulfur. A rush of symptoms hit him. Headache, nausea, cold sweat. He vomited the whole way back to the motel he was staying at, knowing he needed help.

His son admitted him into Misericordia Hospital in Winnepeg after taking a bus 45 miles back from Falcon Lake. He was treated for radiation sickness and interviewed by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

Michalak's incident was investigated by multiple government and civilian agencies, including the Canadian Air Force. At the end of his encounter with a landed unidentified craft (with no visible beings inside, though he had heard conversation aboard), what he calls a vent in a grid pattern blasted him in the chest igniting his shirt, which he tore off in pain. The craft then lifted off. Soon after he experienced nausea, dizziness, headache, vomiting, symptomatic of radiation exposure when coupled with the marks on his chest. He admitted himself to a hospital for treatment.

(Information retrieved from the following links: http://thenightsky.org/michalak.html ; http://www.ufocasebook.com/Falconlake.html)


RELATIONSHIP

None of my cases coincide with UFO encounters, and until otherwise noted, is not a primary area of my investigation. Instead, what is to be taken away from this origin story, if you will, is the vent gas Michalak was exposed to which resulted in a mark bearing striking resemblance to the modern day ones reported. Michalak described the cause of his marks as being a 'hot gas.' He also smelled sulfur and fried electronics, which could be ozone production. Whether those two smells were related to the composition of the 'hot gas' or the combustion process of the craft's engine is hard to know for sure. He mentioned smelling sulfur earlier, before the vent incident.

A couple differences to note about Michalak's case and cases being reported to my team are the overall size of Michalak's mark and the size of his individual dots compared to today's grid marks. The shape of the dots are particularly circular in Michalak's case, matching the grate pattern through which the gas was expelled. Grid marks of today are relatively small.

The other main difference is the degree of adverse symptoms he experienced compared to our cases. No one has reported experiencing nausea, headache, vomiting, or any other discomfort, likely because Michalak's symptoms were the result of radiation exposure. Sweating and a mild burning sensation at the site are the only associated physical symptoms we can attribute to the phenomenon in legitimate cases.

If radiation were the source, the size of the marks that appear today (being smaller) may account for why no other symptoms are felt:  the dose of radiation was concentrated and not high enough to affect the rest of the body. However, we have no evidence for radiation being a factor in current cases, and so do not prescribe to radiation as the cause of the RGMP.

See What the Grid Marks are NOT for a list of other ruled out possibilities.


OTHER LEADS

[Editing Note: The following list is of initial theories and analyses. Because this post is so frequently the only one viewed by new readers, it is important to inform you that we no longer adhere to these possibilities. We have determined a natural, physiological cause of the RGMP. If you wish to learn more, I recommend the Survey Analyses, Discussions, and Conclusions sections of the dossier.]

1. Reposted from the Above Top Secret thread, by chrysanthemum85 is this incredible photo of her mark, one of the most intriquing I've seen.

(Image is the property of the original posting member from abovetopsecret.com, chrysanthemum85 and is used here solely to highlight the structure and symmetry of the grid marks. Linked on page 5 of the site. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread359449/pg5#pid16027907)

Note the three parts to this particular case. First, the outermost, incomplete cradle with faded lines of dots leading down at the bottom of the image. The series of dots that make up the cradle (like a hypothesis) are larger than the others. Second, the encircling, broken shell around the central grid are dotted independently. That is, they do not conform to the row pattern of the inner grid, they have their own dividing principles. Lastly, and most significantly, the inner grid in an octagonal shape with a missing dot on either side, precisely where the outer shell is also missing a dot or two on either side. Rarely is the grid outlined, such as this, with an outer shell, clearly delineating the grid's intended shape. Often there are faded dots around the edges, making it difficult to know if how it appears is a concentration point where the source/affect was strongest, or if there was more deliberateness to its creation.

2. One experiencer, "Frogs" from the same thread states his belief that the marks are always there but appear in extreme hot or cold. To tend to his tendonitis, he soaked his hand in a bucket of ice water. Upon pulling out his hand, he noticed fresh marks. [I have been unable to duplicate these results]

3. User MasterDebater mentioned when his dog was implanted with a microchip to be found if ever lost, the resulting print on the dog's skin was similar to what other posters were describing, only smaller and the dots were closer together. However, I cannot find an image of the skin after an implanting to compare.

4. Dutch medium Robbert van den Broeke discovered strange sunburn-like symbols on his forehead repeatedly after encountering two light beings with a friend Stan. Could the light beings, often described as being brighter than the sun, be radiating energy enough to cause such a mark?



UPDATE - August 4th, 2016

This investigation is now closed. We are no longer receiving new cases. Data has been collected and analyzed on more than 200 cases after nearly four years of research. Our findings, case reports, conclusions, photo collections, and analyses have been made available in an RGMP Dossier compilation.

To read old posts on the subject for free (be advised these are unedited, unorganized, make up only a fraction of the total ebook, and do not include final analyses and conclusions that were only done after we had significant data collected to do so), go here to see the Red Grid Mark Phenomenon (RGMP) archive listing.

You can still report your RGMP occurrence using the survey here

161 comments :

  1. I got a grid-like mark on my right arm, near my hand. The only exceptional event that occured was a hit of a leg on my hand, but I was heavily dressed, since it's winter. It's very weird, I can't be sure of the marking's relation with the hit. The first time I saw them, was in the evening, after the hit. I didn't feel any local heat. Weird was that, the second day, the guy that was with me when I got hit, got the same grid-like mark on his right arm shoulder. He saw the sign during a shower, and after a day, they disappeared. Mine are still there after 2 and half days. What do you know?

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  2. i have strange dot pattern in my bicipe too email me at jselacnoratyahoo.com so we can discuss it.

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  3. Lol woke up with this same shit today. What the hell

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    1. Nicole, did you take any pics of your marks?

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    2. This has been happening to me for a while please contact me for pics they like like hickies in a pattern

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  4. I have had these marks many times. I lost count. But i believe over 15 times that I know of. My friends have always been bewildered of the sight of these marks. When I find them I dont know how long they had been there or sometimes my roommates will see them and tell me i have the marks again. Mostly occures on my shoulder blades or my triceps. Sometimes the thighs. Its always on the pale skin thats rarely in the sun. I am South American and Pacific Islander so my skin gets dark in the sun. I do remember one time noticing that a cluster of marks appeared overnight. So I can definitely confirm that the marks can show up overnight for those of you who are unsure. Feel free to email me. Motfeen@gmail.com

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  5. I've had red dots on my back arranged in a grid pattern for 2 days now. Anyone know anything about this? Please write james_lastname2001@yahoo.com - Jim Vance

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    1. I just noticed upon waking that I have the honeycomb markings on my rear...both sides in about the same spot. I am a Christian and do not believe in the existence of aliens. Not wanting to start a debate..just wanted to mention that. I am a 49 year old mother of 2. I like the others have not sat on anything nor been burned etc. There is no raised skin..no itching. My markings are about the size of 4 dimes placed in a diamond pattern. I am curious to know what our common denominators are..? I'm sure others reading this think we are attention seeking or just plain weird and I would honestly probably think that had this not happened to me. I hope somehow we can find out the answer.

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    2. My email is incredibren@gmail.com. ..I welcome your emails.perhaps we should start a support group..ha. Or contact the media like idk ..the Today show or 20/20 :-)

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    3. Hi Brenda, I have the same red grid markings on my rear both sides. I would've had no idea about them if it wasn't for my daughter & husband who noticed them. They are now fading & at a guess I think I've had them for 4-5 days now. Have you had any more markings since 2014?
      Thanks Sharlene

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  6. My daughter has had triangle grid marks on her forehead, it seems once a year. She has one on her leg now. She is 14, we always joked it was the aliens.

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    1. Could you take a picture of the current marks, with your daughter's permission? Contact me in email to followup: experientialdreaming@gmail.com.

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    1. My son has had marks in three rows circles looking like bruises. It's happened a couple times already. I took him to the hospital but the dr was saying he had to hit it on something but he didn't. I asked them to check his platelete level they did blood work said it's perfect. Then they sent me home with discharge papers that said rash - dermatitis. I asked how it's a rash and they couldn't answer what it was . I have pictures but I don't know how to post pics.

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  8. Have these red grid marks on my butt cheeks. Cjohnson2108@yahoo.com

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    1. Same here, but not red - dark, like mini bruises.

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  10. Hi, I discovered marks on the buttock of my boyfriend on the 3rd of january. A perfect circle made of dots, and with a dot grid inside of it. It was so symetric, we could not beleive this was a skin rash. We unfortunatly took a picture on the next day, it was half faded. He did not had any pain, it was underskin with no bumps. It suddenly appeared we do not know exactly when. It took 3 days to finally diseapear. We are not aliens fanatic either esoteric... We just could not found any logical explanantions, so we made research and found some text about abduction... but we are very sceptical just has a lot of people here....
    We have 2 pictures and I made an illustration of the original mark.

    There is groups of support on FB: Alien Abduction fb Support

    Feel free to write us.
    veronet75@gmail.com

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  11. I've been getting these red dot patterns on my skin for decades. Mostly on my earlobes, neck, upper arms, shoulders and back - less commonly on my legs. They disappear just as suddenly as they appear. Sometimes they last a day, sometimes a week. No pain, no irritation. I'd like to think I was specially selected by some alien life form for research purposes. They come while I'm sleeping and use an instrument/sensor on the most accessible part of my body. Alien talk aside, I also get chilblains and have iron poor blood (anemia), so it's likely a circulatory issue. Nothing to worry about...it's been 35 years and I'm still alive and well :)

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    1. We didn't receive a way to contact you and we're hoping to discuss your lifetime of grid mark appearances. You can contact us at experientialdreaming@gmail.com or you can use the contact form in the right column of this page to list your email. Thank you for reporting!

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  12. Wow this is crazy - my gf just found these on my back yesterday, good to know they're pretty common! Same as everyone else, no pain/itching etc., just two lines of dots on my back. Weird. Would love to discuss with you Jennifer

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    1. Hi Robbie,
      Put your email in the contact form in the right hand column of this page so we can chat. Or use experientialdreaming@gmail.com. Looking forward to connecting with you.

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  13. Hi, im a 19 year old female. My boyfriend found a grid of a rectangle on my back Tuesday (05/26/15) He finally told me last night and i started to research and i cant mind anything but forums related to this. And some date back too far and this is the only one that is recent. they are only bruises. perfect lines and rows. no bumps no itchness. NO SYMPTOMS or recolection

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  15. Jennifer, I emailed you at experientialdreaming@gmail.com with a brief message and pictures.

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  16. I am 9 months pregnant, I awoke at about 3 am in the middle of the night drenched in sweat. I got up to change my pajamas and found the markings of these diamond shaped, honeycomb, branding on my left butt cheek. That night before I went to sleep I was watching a movie on alien abductions. I have images and I've taken multiple pictures of the pattern on me. Anyone can email me at alexandraa.curtis@gmail.com

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  17. As i had 1 really strange dream the same night ! should i be worried?

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  18. I woke up with dot markings close to my armpit, should i be worried. I had a really weird dream aswell that night. what should i do????

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    1. Hi Reinaldas, Please fill out our general info form here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1eNY6iZHY9x-2IaOy2wWz9FPehwsm0mgt7JaTi06-Tp4/viewform and take a picture of your marks as soon as possible.

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  19. This is very interesting...my boyfriend pointed out a cluster of red dots on my left shoulder blade this afternoon (7/5). He thought I had scratched too hard or that I had a rash. I haven't experienced any pain or discomfort nor have I felt any itchiness in the area. After taking a shower, I took a closer look and noticed that it formed a grid like pattern with different sized dots. I find it baffling that there are no medical answers to explain why this happens or what it may be a result of. If you have any updates in your research, would love to know!

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    1. Hi Lynn, Please fill out our general info form here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1eNY6iZHY9x-2IaOy2wWz9FPehwsm0mgt7JaTi06-Tp4/viewform and take a picture of your marks as soon as possible and email them to us at: experientialdreaming@gmail.com

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  20. Feel free to email me at nikiwithonekay@gmail.com for photos taking this morning.

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  21. I woke up this morning with these pattern like dots right below my shoulder blade. What is it?

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    1. Heather, Please contact us at experientialdreaming@gmail.com so we can get your email privately. We cannot follow up on cases without a way to contact.

      As summary to your question, we're not sure, that's why we are trying to collect data and interview experiencers at this time. I encourage you to read some of our other case reports listed in the Investigations page at the top of this site, or simply scroll in the home page. I will be posting statistics soon comparing our some hundred cases in personal archive. Please check in regularly and follow us. You will likely find others with your same questions and concerns already addressed.

      I hope we can follow-up in email from here and you can share the details of your mark and person.

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  22. I woke up this morning with these markings on the front of both shoulders. They can not be explained but are perfectly aligned. They are about an inch by inch and look like little red pin pricks with no feeling or discomfort at all. Can anyone explain what this may be?

    Thanks Charlene

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  23. I woke up this morning with these markings on the front of both shoulders. They can not be explained but are perfectly aligned. They are about an inch by inch and look like little red pin pricks with no feeling or discomfort at all. Can anyone explain what this may be?

    Thanks Charlene

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    1. Hi Charlene, Please fill out our general info form here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1eNY6iZHY9x-2IaOy2wWz9FPehwsm0mgt7JaTi06-Tp4/viewform and take a picture of your marks as soon as possible and email them to us at: experientialdreaming@gmail.com

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  25. My dad had the same marks off & on while i was growing up. My mom always said it was aliens & she witnessed the abductions. Then once I was grown up & married with children, she said she saw the same marks on my back once as a teenager, but didn't tell me because she didn't want to scare me. I had told her at some point growing up I didn't want to hear about it because it scared me. As a kid, my dad says he & his friend saw ufos in the sky and they followed him on more than one occasion. My mom's therory is that's probably when it all started. I know she won't talk to strangers about this because it's only something she's shared with me.

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  26. Today 7-10-2015 My girlfriend just noticed a honeycomb shaped pattern about 2 inches below my right shoulder blade after researching I found no explanation on this pattern, I never had this before nothing unusual with my daily work or home routine this was not here last night(7-9-2015) please if anyone could help my email is nfosterny@yahoo.com or nfosterny@gmail.com, I have pictures as well

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  27. I have a circle of dots on one side of my foot. They are just now beginning to heal (disappear) after several weeks. No idea how I got them. How do I share a photo?

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  28. Hi, is there an email I can send photos to? My husband woke up this morning with grid pattern markings on his lower back, resembling your photo on the top of the article. Circular shape small circles in uniform pattern. He also has one on his shoulder. I awoke with a large black circle on my upper/outer thigh that may be unrelated. We would like more info about this. Thanks :)

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  29. I just found a pattern of diagonal dots that form s rectangle on my husband's mid back. It wraps around to his side and is about 6" x 2". Red dots of varying sizes. Not raised or itchy. The dots in the centre are more pronounced and fade out towards the edges of the rectangle. It is freaking me out but he is unconcerned. Can't believe there are others. Should I send pictures?

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  30. Hi Becky, yes please send any pictures you may have to us here at experientialdreaming@gmail.com. They will fade in a few days so if you could take more until they do that would be great, Also, if you could take just a few minutes and fill out the brief questionnaire on our website that would help a lot too. You can find it on the right side in the gray area above.
    Thanks

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  31. Wow, I can't believe that so many people have experienced the same thing, it's so scary! I live in San Antonio, Texas and I discovered these same markings on my husbands back 9/29/2015. There is no explanation to how they got there, this is so weird to us. Does anybody know exactly what could of happened to him? I have pictures where can I send them to or how can I post them?

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  32. Please send any photos you may have to experientialdreaming@gmail.com, we'd very much like to see them! Thanks!

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  33. I have been waking up with red dots all down my arms, this just started about a month ago. Crazy thing is, if I take a baby wipe, they wipe right off. No bumps or indents, I have also been attacked by a demon, it started with the red dots then moved into other things. I took pics every morning I would have them. Some would not be red, would just look like indents in my arm but was smooth feeling.

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  34. I have been waking up with red dots all down my arms, this just started about a month ago. Crazy thing is, if I take a baby wipe, they wipe right off. No bumps or indents, I have also been attacked by a demon, it started with the red dots then moved into other things. I took pics every morning I would have them. Some would not be red, would just look like indents in my arm but was smooth feeling.

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  36. I woke up three days ago with a circle made out of evenly placed dots on my chest. Shooth skin not bug bites not bruises. I had a feeling of a visit when I woke up from the smell in the room but this was the first visit in my new house . I had many visits in my old house and thought they were done with me, but I guess not.

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    1. Jason, could you please get in touch with us at experientialdreaming@gmail.com and send a picture of your marks?

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  38. After having a Kindalini awakening a hexagon shape about the size of a nickel appeared in my forehead. There is also a small eye in the center of it. I see auras and have my entire chakra system open. This happened in July after I was guided by something to go to the Internet and do a third eye awakening. I am glad I finally found some information on this subject. There is much more to this story. 39 years old. Have become very spiritual and connected to God this year.

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    1. Darren, could you please get in touch with us at experientialdreaming@gmail.com and send a picture of your marks?

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  39. Hi, I was just laying down watching tv when my boyfriend asked what was on my upper thigh. It sounds similar to what was described: strange shaped honeycomb marks in rows, no pain, and not raised. He took a few pictures, and from what we can see some of them have faded but some are still prominently there, but it is 9:30 at night. I just wanted to know if I could get an opinion on these marks? I joked about it being aliens before I looked it up, I'm not laughing too much anymore.

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  40. I noticed the exact same grid dot thing last night on my partners shoulder... We googled it because we had been talking about extraterrestrial life forms the night before and I made a joke about him being abducted... We weren't expecting to find this! Well I'm well and truly freaked out!!!!!

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    1. Hi Anastasia,
      We'd love to get some more info and pictures if you could email us at experientialdreaming@gmail.com
      Thanks!

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  41. Hi, woke up about an hour ago & was told by my girlfriend that a pattern of red dots was on my back.
    She photographed the area if you would like to see it.
    I did have a strange vivid dream & awoke in the middle of the night (not sure what time) shivering.
    I live in downtown Ft Lauderdale, FL
    Please let me know if you would like to see photos or require more info?

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    1. Daniel, yes we'd love to hear more and see some photos. Please email us at: experientialdreaming@gmail.com
      Thanks

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  43. I have been waking to find a series of three pin like dots on my skin for years. They are most commonly found on my abdomen/torso but are occasionally found on my hands or arms.
    They appear approximately every few months, although my last two came about a month apart.
    The size and separation if the three little dots are ALWAYs the same.
    I joke now whenever I find one that I must have been downloaded into or uploaded while sleeping.
    The one a month ago was strange as it was mid-afternoon and I was suddenly overwhelmingly tired. I could not keep my eyes open yet I had not been at all tired shortly before that. When I awoke 2.5 hrs later I had the mark on my thumb.
    Although I have been noticing these occurrences for years, it wasn't until last months experience that I took a picture (I need to see if I can get it from someone since I sent it to them but deleted it from my phone).
    I will email the photo from my most recent.

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  44. I just got on here today looking for answers, I woke up today not noticing them and after three or 4 hours I looked in the mirror and these weird dots were on my jaw and neck in a weird pattern, I have no pain or discomfort and they're in a rectangle, I don't know what it is, I was thinking bed bugs??? But they're in just such an unordinary pattern... That it couldn't be

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  45. I just got on here today looking for answers, I woke up today not noticing them and after three or 4 hours I looked in the mirror and these weird dots were on my jaw and neck in a weird pattern, I have no pain or discomfort and they're in a rectangle, I don't know what it is, I was thinking bed bugs??? But they're in just such an unordinary pattern... That it couldn't be

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  46. Picture if my son's face. Two days old.

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  47. Hi, I noticed a cluster or red marks underneath my chin earlier tonight and as I was searching on the internet for similar marks I came across this page. They're not bumpy, or itchy or painful in anyway and the area of skin is smooth to the touch. I took a few pictures to get a better look.

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    1. Can you share your pictures my boyfriend woke up with this marks today and he is extremely tired and sleepy after the whole night sleep he is back in bed now 2pm not usual for him, he feels like he didn't get any rest last night. Is not bumpy or painful or itchy and is also smooth when I touch it. Prefect grid pattern with red dots in his back.

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  49. Hi, we woke up today and my boyfriend is telling me how unusual last night was, he never dreams but last night he did although he can't remember all he remembers is that he was sweating a lot. Later on the morning I realize that he has this grid patter dots in his back. I took several pictures and we started looking for something in our bed that he might have slept over and got him marked but with no sucks we didn't find anything in our room with this perfect pattern. Can I email some pictures we are trying to look for answers. Everyone we have told keeps making jokes that we got visited by aliens last night that marked him to come back later. Please help us find out what this is

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  51. I have the same marking dot pattern also but it's on my back. It's faded so I'm sure it's been there since this morning but I didn't notice it till I got home from school today. I have had this same markings last year on my back but in a rectangular pattern shape. I've also have a little bit of back pain. Plz help me find out what it is. I have a picture also.

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  52. I woke up with a diamond shaped pattern of red dots under my chin about two days ago. They are all the same shape and in perfect lines. They look as if someone drew it with a series of pokes with a red sharpie.
    Cannot think of anything that could have caused it, though it looks like I heavily rested my chin on a salt shaker.

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  53. Hello, I noticed a almost circular arrangement of small bruise like dots on the very middle of my forehead just before the hair line as the past couple days have gone by they have faded very little, but I have absolutely no idea where it could have come from. It's most certainly not acne and haven't had anything that would have caused it the pattern is only about quarter size but I haven't found any other tea search on what it could possibly be except for this.

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  54. http://imgur.com/XwWcz8j

    Photo taken around 24 hours after discovery.
    No pain or irritation, only a hicky-like under-skin appearance.
    Absolutely no patterns in my house with this resemblance.

    Here's the weirdest part for me, after seeing some people a reports on this condition...

    Dozens of times in my life, concentrated after age 20 (now 29) I've experienced a visual phenomenon of a grid of white dots, equally sized and equidistant, appearing in the same proportions as these dots. The visual phenomenon occurs in the span of a blink, appearing as an overlay of sorts, never while blinking, but open eyed. Just a brief flash but it seems to encompass my whole visual field.

    I wrote this email to the researchers a year ago or more, I baby experienced a skin phenomenon again but the eye flashes happen multiple times a day, but, not every day...

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  55. http://imgur.com/XwWcz8j

    Photo taken around 24 hours after discovery.
    No pain or irritation, only a hicky-like under-skin appearance.
    Absolutely no patterns in my house with this resemblance.

    Here's the weirdest part for me, after seeing some people a reports on this condition...

    Dozens of times in my life, concentrated after age 20 (now 29) I've experienced a visual phenomenon of a grid of white dots, equally sized and equidistant, appearing in the same proportions as these dots. The visual phenomenon occurs in the span of a blink, appearing as an overlay of sorts, never while blinking, but open eyed. Just a brief flash but it seems to encompass my whole visual field.

    I wrote this email to the researchers a year ago or more, I baby experienced a skin phenomenon again but the eye flashes happen multiple times a day, but, not every day...

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    1. That's 100% exactly what I had under my chin. Same size and everything. So strange.

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  57. i have these marks similar to the first photo, they are small patterned red spots on my left cheek. the first appeared last summer when i was in spain, i went to a dermatologist there he said i just needed some specific moisturizer and they eventually faded,t but they reappeared now same pattern, same place, same EVERYTHING. it kinda creeped me out.

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  59. I have a somewhat diamond shaped grid of tiny pin pricks on my right wrist but mine has stayed there for several months. I get these pin pricks on my hands and feet bexcuse of my psoriasis but never in a pattern like this.

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  60. I have a group of 5 dots that form a pizza shaped triangle. Second time I.ve had this, though this one is different looking bthan last time. I do have a picture, but it.s not a fancy formation like some of these LOL. Sent in contact info, deedlehobbs@yahoo.com

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  61. My 6 yo has a square pattern of about 8 smaller squares on his shoulder and about 4 in his back. Weirdest thing I have ever seen - he remembers no cause (nor do i). I would attach a picture but not sure how.

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  62. This happened to me when I was in high school. It was a small area on my lower back just above my right hip...I never even knew it was there until someone pointed it out in the locker room when we were changing into gym clothes.
    It was similar to a waffleiron pattern.
    the gym teacher pulled me in the office and wanted to know if my parents abused me..I remember laughing and then getting worried, because they didn't seem to believe me. They called my parents and when I got home my dad wanted to know how it got there and lectured me on always telling the truth...it sucked.

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  63. This happened to me when I was in high school. It was a small area on my lower back just above my right hip...I never even knew it was there until someone pointed it out in the locker room when we were changing into gym clothes.
    It was similar to a waffleiron pattern.
    the gym teacher pulled me in the office and wanted to know if my parents abused me..I remember laughing and then getting worried, because they didn't seem to believe me. They called my parents and when I got home my dad wanted to know how it got there and lectured me on always telling the truth...it sucked.

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  66. This whole thing kinda freaks me out. I had the crazy dreams last night with a lot of sweating. Today my wife tells me I have 2 sets of these crazy dots on my back. She claims that she has seen them before too.

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  67. I noticed a grid on my husband's back when we woke up this morning. It's flat no raised bumps but they are in a circular pattern. He has had a fever the last couple days. The rash doesn't hurt. I have a picture if you know what this is or want a picture please email me at yowler123.hs@gmail.com

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  70. Actually I made a photobucket so I could share. Here is the photo http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah83/Marie_Dewey/Mobile%20Uploads/20160626_142206_zpser60fbqw.jpg

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  71. Actually I made a photo bucket. Heres the photo [URL=http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/

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  72. I noticed a grid on my husband's back when we woke up this morning. It's flat no raised bumps but they are in a circular pattern. He has had a fever the last couple days. The rash doesn't hurt. I have a picture if you know what this is or want a picture please email me at yowler123.hs@gmail.com

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  73. My wife notice grid Like patterns on my back area. Could be due to some sort of heat Rash. Or a possible chemical reaction. Since I staring using a new chemical at work. Also have had lower back pain for two weeks. Don't know if this helps.

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  74. I have the same thing on my upper back in like 2 L shapes..kishajustblessed0911@gmail.com

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  75. Thank you all for your comments and incidents about the RGMP investigation. We have recently published an ebook covering all the information (reports, analyses, conclusions, photo albums) we have gathered on the phenomenon. It is available for purchase in the right hand column of this page. We are no longer investigating grid mark cases, the investigation is closed on our end. If you wish to read old posts on the subject, you can access the archive list for free in the Investigations page at the very top of this page. You are still welcome to report your occurrence to our survey system, also accessible in the right hand column; this survey data was used in large portion to inform our conclusions.

    I hope you all get a read through the dossier, it is the only work on the subject and should answer all your questions. It is experiencers like you who've made this all possible with your willingness to report. I can still be reached for other inquiries at experientialdreaming@gmail.com

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  76. these just appeared out of nowhere. It sounds really scary and creepy. I freaked out for a few minutes after reading this. I thought it was like some sort of imprint of something I must've had on my back. However, these dots were too perfectly aligned. There two rows and looks very odd. My email is 19leey@asij.ac.jp.

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  77. My boy friend found these markings on me this morning. I had no idea what they could have been but now I'm assuming I got to close to my microwave. Mine don't itch and their not raised bumps but I feel like crap. I have had a pounding headache and felt really nauseous all morning. I pretty much slept all day after taking a Advilpm and didn't actually vomit. Now that I'm up my headache has subsided and I don't feel like I'm gonna vomit my stomach just feels really bruised as if I did.

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  78. My husband has these marks
    They are on his back
    What are they?? They dont hurt or itch
    I googled it as i usualy google everything
    And i could not find anything BUT ALIEN ABDUCTION cases and got freaked out.
    He woke up this morning and told me he had a weird dream i asked what kind of dream and he said he couldnt remember but all he knew was that it was weird
    He said in his dream he felt like someone was in control of his body.
    He thinks he dreamt that since he's been thinking about it too much.
    He doesnt think its the aliens and im just freaked out about this
    He says he doesn't feel weird or hasn't seen things or lights or anything so i dont know
    I guess i am here like everybody else just looking for some answers.
    Thank you
    Feel free to contact me if you have any info or questions priscillacepeda4668@hotmail.com

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  79. My daughter has marks like these all over her body. Small squares of dots in different places. Would really like some info please. Contact marney.bubbles@gmail.com. I have pics

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  80. My daughter has marks like these all over her body. Small squares of dots in different places. Would really like some info please. Contact marney.bubbles@gmail.com. I have pics

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  81. hi i got some symmetric dots forming on my palms. it started with one dot on my left palm but the next day more formed the dots are all about 1 cm apart. Contact me at chankim88@gmail.com . i will have pictures by then

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  82. im freaking out my daughter has weird honeycomb mark on here...it feels weird too, like embeded. i don't know how she got it she's only 4 i took a picture but dont know how to post it

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  83. Perfect honeycomb pattern numerous times on outer side of thumb, wrist, hip, upper arm.. flat, not painful, not from leaning on anything. They fade in a cpl days. Have really vivid dreams /nightmares that I can remember no problem. Reddish color, closest thing I can compare it to is a tattoo. Perfect design and symmetry.I would never show my Dr's, they'd think I'm full of it or that it's from leaning on something. (Yeah right)

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  84. Theyve appeared on my right shoulder blade and my lower spine a few times, and I've seen lights in the sky with my friend on the same nights, one night before it occurred I was woken by a loud kind of turbine sound and saw a huge red laser like light pulse quickly above me in my room for like a brief second then everything became normal my friend was asleep in the room with me and was not awoken or anything in fact he was the one that discovered the marks the next day, I don't believe in aliens but this is weird and I want answers!

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  85. Theyve appeared on my right shoulder blade and my lower spine a few times, and I've seen lights in the sky with my friend on the same nights, one night before it occurred I was woken by a loud kind of turbine sound and saw a huge red laser like light pulse quickly above me in my room for like a brief second then everything became normal my friend was asleep in the room with me and was not awoken or anything in fact he was the one that discovered the marks the next day, I don't believe in aliens but this is weird and I want answers!

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    1. What you describe reminisces of an out of body experience (OBE). Are you familiar with those? Have you experienced turbine/fan-like sounds and odd optical lights or vibrant patterns before at night? Jordon is our resident OBEr. If you think you have, I recommend doing some research in that area. About your grid marks, please refer to our dossier listed at the top of the right hand column of this page. You will find the connection vivid dreams have to the RGMP particularly interesting, given your experience.

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  86. this is my third time I have noticed this "rash". They are always a dotted grid, perfectly spaced apart. The last two times it appeared on my jaw, and this time it is under my chin. It doesn't hurt and has no bumps.

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    1. Rebecca, thank you for reporting. The chin or jaw is one of the common areas for the marks to appear, surprisingly. If you're able, I recommend you read our dossier. Look for the Location on Body survey data analysis in the contents page of the dossier. It will give you break downs of how and why this spot may receive the marks.

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  87. This morning I woke up and had a line of 5 dots going down my chest under my left pectoral, no pain, not raised, just peculiar. I checked again after an hour or so and the mark was gone. Interestingly (though almost too fourth-kind,) I woke up at 3:30 this morning after having an uncharacteristic nightmare to my cat making angry noises and attacking my first floor windows. It was probably just an outdoor cat poking around but I figured I'd share!

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    1. Vivid nightmares around the time of the mark appearance are what tipped my team off to how and why the mark form. In the dossier on the right hand column of this page, see the statistical analysis and discussion on dreams (pg 200), and the Theories and Conclusions section (pg 210) for how it all relates.

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  88. My girlfriend noticed marks on my back and we don't know how they appear looks like 2 lines and a honey cone shape at the end of it who knows what this is

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  89. I have a triangler shaped one but I have had it for years it never went away and its on my back. I got it right after watching a t.v series on a t.v that never worked dont know why I was watching it but the t.v show ended and so did the life of my t.v the next day I woke up with hives and that mark was there.

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    1. Your mark has not disappeared? Could you send me a picture of what it looks like now? experientialdreaming@gmail.com

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  90. 26weeks pregnant and two days ago my partner pointed out weird dots on my left buttock.. I was having a nap at the time when he woke me to tell me. The pattern is still very much visible. It is a honeycomb/circular shape and perfectly semmetrical made up of 7 dots.. One sits in the middle and six surround it, also creating perfect lines if you joined them across using the middle fit for for each line. It dosnt hurt nor irritate. I've had marks appear on my buttok before, through these other marks were giant scratches which looked extremely painful but were not sore at all nor do I have any recollection of them appearing on myself either. Help

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    1. Did you ever figure out what it was? Mine appeared yesterday right where my leg meets my butt in the exact same pattern as you describe. If you have more info, please email me. Beclapick@gmail.com

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    2. Hi I'm also pregnant, 22 weeks and found a cluster of dots on my butt/ leg area. My boyfriend also noticed this on my while I napping. He thought they look like little hickeys. They were a little dots even spaced out. I however had a vividly weird dream in which I woke up in the middle of the night, the night before. Very odd!

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    3. Thank you for your comments. I understand having these marks appear when you're pregnant can be distressing. Please know our findings show you have nothing to worry about with regard to your babies. The buttocks the second most common area for the grid marks to appear. If you are able to purchase our dossier detailing our data analyses and conclusions, pay close attention to the sections Location on the Body Analysis, and Dreams Around Time of Occurrence. The Theories and Conclusions article discusses the relationship between vivid dreams and the appearance of grid marks as they relate to a physiological response in the body.

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  91. Hi its nice to know im not alone. I woke up this morning with these dots on my forehead and have been trying to figure out what I did last night. I knew i hadn't slept on anything because i sleep on my side on the side of my bed. I have been extremely interested in aliens and have been looking for evidence of their existence and seeing this makes me very happy. Me and my dad are obsessed with it. Iv got some pictures of them if you would like me to send it to you

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  92. I have these similar circular dots appearing on my back. This is the second time it happened. Previously the dots disappeared after a few days. But now it is back. No pain nor swell. Can't find an answer.

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  93. The dots appear this way:
    O O O O
    O O
    O O

    The first time it appear is like this:
    O O
    O O
    O O
    The dots are almost identical in size. About 1cm in diameter.

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    1. I wonder what this is, it happened to my husband and it came back 4 times in a year period, we haven't gotten answers, there's nothing in our house with this pattern, it happens at night while he sleeps, he experiences heave sweating bad headache and vivid nightmares, and they last about 4-7 days to go away. Please feel free to contact us we have pictures, I don't think anyone else answered on this chat. Lilygonza1717@gmail.com

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  94. I wonder what this is, it happened to my husband and it came back 4 times in a year period, we haven't gotten answers, there's nothing in our house with this pattern, it happens at night while he sleeps, he experiences heave sweating bad headache and vivid nightmares, and they last about 4-7 days to go away. Please feel free to contact us we have pictures, I don't think anyone else answered on this chat. Lilygonza1717@gmail.com

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  95. Hi there,
    I woke up this morning with a 6x5 red grid pattern directly under my chin. It looks as though they're little red pinpricks. It is not itchy or grazed, it does not hurt, and it is merely more of an aesthetic issue at this stage. I had it checked out by two pharmacists and they were both perplexed and agreed that it was not allergies or bed bugs. They could not explain it and suggested to just keep an eye on it and hopefully it goes away as quickly as it appeared! My mother mentioned to me today that I had a very loud nightmare last night, to the point that it woke her up in the other room despite her having earphones in and watching a movie. I have absolutely no recollection of this dream.
    I have pictures if you would like me to send them.

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    1. Vivid nightmares actually play a significant role in this phenomenon, and tipped us off to the how and why they occur. Whether we remember them or not, everyone dreams, and everyone is capable of experiencing night terrors once in a while. Experiencers may report sleeping unusually long or hard the night before their appearance. Rest assured, the cause is a natural physiological response to intense heat and stress in the body during REM. If you are able, I recommend you read the Statistical Analyses (starting on page 185) and Theories and Conclusions (pg 210) of our recently released Dossier compilation on the RGMP. The link can be found on the right hand column of this site.

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    2. Please can you contact me with regards to your skin dots irene.walkinshaw@gmail.com

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  96. My boyfriend just woke up today with them.

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  97. Hello New Britain CT here,

    My son has them on his face exactly 1 year later on the same spot in a form of a rectangle.

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  98. If you happen to need the pictures please feel free to email
    Alynight@gmail.com anytime.
    My son had bizarre dreams on the time of the occurrences the first time he had a dream of a zombie apocalypse and this time a dream about war. However, this happened during the morning hours he was in the living room asleep while everyone was upstairs, he fell into one of those deeps naps and next thing you know he woke up with these marks exactly one year later

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  100. Woke up this morning with multiple red dots making a diamond shape directly on center of my upper spine. 6 rows by 6 rows in perfect geometric shape. Did have vivid dream but not nightmare and was very hot when I woke. Checked everything in bed and every possible reason with no answers. Afraid to go to sleep.

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    1. Not everyone in our data set had a nightmare. Even happy dreams can produce stress hormones in the body. What matter is the intensity, the vividness of the dream that has the affect on the body's heat production. I recommend reading the 'Dreams Around Time of Occurrence' (pg 200) in the Dossier we released. The link to it is on the right hand column of this site. That analysis, along with the Theories and Conclusions article (pg 210) discusses the relevance of vivid dreams to this phenomenon.

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  101. I would really just like to know if mine looked like the rest or if it was different. It's very odd looking but in perfect pattern and it was huge. I have the pic still.

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  102. I have similar spaced dots arranged in a close grid pattern,formed in small circle dots,on my right palm under my index finder area, they appeared this AM, and are now fading drastically. No pain, not raised, no discomfort. I didn't lay on anything that would create such a pattern....Any ideas of what they may be? I do have pictures, but again they are faded drastically, but still visible.

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  103. Hi Everyone,

    I'm 32 years old and am now researching marks I've had on my body since childhood. I have 3 uniform dots between my thumb and pointer finger ( left hand) making a perfect triangle shape. Its very strange because they are bright red ( as if burned into my skin) not raised. I also have a red circle on the back of my my left arm that looks like a burn mark. What makes it even more strange is that I have pretty dark skin ( eastern indian and latin american) the markings have not faded over time. Curious of anyone has any insights or thoughts.

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    1. Though these do not sound like classic RGMP marks, I would be willing to take a look at them, especially the circle on your back. Email me any photos you have at experientialdreaming@gmail.com

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  104. Okay so here I am trying to figure out where these hickey-like spots in a weird pattern like a honey comb came from. I woke up and as I was changing my husband said I had something weird in the bottom of each of my bottom cheeks and when I looked in mirror I was so confused as to how they got there, did not sit on anything that could have made this and my sheets aren't textured. That night my 4 year old son had a very bad night terror and was screening out loud "no I don't want to" and kept saying "no" crying putting his hands in front of him like he was scared and trying to get away from something. That happened at about 12am so I tried to wake him but he wouldn't come out of it. It took about 10-15 minutes to get him to kind of respond. He had an accident and wet himself which isn't like him at all and finally when I got him to respond, I asked him what happened and he was very out of it and tired so I brought him to my bed to sleep with me then we fell asleep. Very odd....and then I woke up with that very weird pattern of dots!! This was on 6/6/17 and afterwards I came to this site because I couldn't find anything else on where these could have come from. I am a Christian and it's hard to believe some other life form came and did this but now after reading everyone's stories I'm scared but my husband after sending him this site he jokes that aliens spanked me! I don't find it funny at all and we need answers. I did take pictures on the day my husband saw them but by the time I took the picture which was a couple hours late, the outside dots started to fade. If anyone can help me figure this out I would REALLY appreciate it. Thanks!!!

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    1. Mirror marks on the buttocks are the second most common part of the body for the marks to appear. The muscle group there produces significant heat when the body is triggered in a fight or flight response. I hope I can calm your fears at least about the marks by saying we believe them to be the product of heat release by the body during intense REM state dreaming. Whether you happen to remember you dream or not, we dream every night. Other experiencers describe sleeping unusually hard or deep or dreamless the night the mark appeared. My six year old deals with night terrors as well. He also sleep walks. I sympathize with you on that. I hope your collective sleep improves. Contact me if you wish to discuss the episode further. You can also read about our research findings in our recently released dossier, available in the right hand column of this site.

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  105. I have these marks on my bum, on both sides perfectly uniformed dot bruises in a pattern. I have very vivid dreams and I dream every night but I did not remember my dreams last night which I was weird. I'm a Christian and I often pray I thought maybe it might possibly be some sort of spiritual attack. This is going to sound unreal but weird things happen to me sometimes at night. The enemy tries to scared me but it doesn't work anymore. I have no idea where these dots came from but my bum is kinda warm where they are. I also got bit by a spider on my bum last week so maybe it's some sort of reaction to that? This is the weirdest thing ever. The only other possibility I can think of is that I recently had blood work done and I had a test come back that I had large red blood cells. Just throwing all the possible options out there.

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    1. The spider may or may not be related. Hives from an allergic reaction are raised and itchy bumps. The uniformed dot bruises you describe are more in line with the RGMP. They have been described before as similar to allergy testing grids. You can see my post on 'What the Grid Marks Are NOT' from the Investigations Page archive list, or by typing in the search bar.

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  106. I have this mark today also on my back. I was changing my shirt and my son noticed it. He said whats that? So i told him to take a picture. Its like 8 small circles horizontal. Its weird. Im thinking of going to see a dr or not. I wonder how long ive had this. So my son started googling it. This is my email incase u want to see the picture. rujim1974@gmail.com

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  107. I woke up with two sets of these dots on my back this morning at 1:30am. I got up and was completely awake, which is very odd for me. My wife woke up and saw the dots, and we took pictures. Then we researched it a bit this morning and found this site. If you want to see the pics please e-mail at nathanac42@gmail.com. Oh, and just curious...how many with this are negative blood types? I am. O-

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  108. I had a pattern almost identical to the on pictured in the main article. I noticed it on two separate occasions, once on the front of my thigh and then on my lower buttocks. I went to the doctor, and they had no explanation. I was completely baffled until I realized I was leaning against the suction part of my jacuzzi bathtub and receiving the hickey-like circular patterns from the suction! I wasn't sure if I should admit it to my doctor or not! 😂

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    1. Thank you Farrises. Yes, we have determined the cause of the circular patterned marks to be of a particular type of tub drain. Glad you were able to figure out yours.

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  109. I didn't notice my dots in the morning, however after waking from my afternoon nap after a strange and vivid dream I noticed I had a round symetrical sort of faded dots. It seemed strange. I thought maybe I slept on something symetrical but I didn't. My husband joked saying "who are you sleeping with that's giving you aids?" Haha. Exactly as described in the symptoms. No pain or discomfort. A perfect symetrical circle. Perfectly lined.

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  110. Hi there. Woke up this morning and my sister noticed weird hicky looking for on my left bottom under cheek area. It's gross. Kinda freaked out.

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  111. Hi there, I have had these small white dots close to my elbow and they formed a good round circle, funny thing is it's on both arms same locations. It often comes and goes, and my colleagues often get the chill whenever it comes back showing bright white spots then later after days it fades but not completely. I have had a tough time trying to figure it out,it makes me uncomfortable around in public. Do I have to keep telling everyone I don't know what it is. No pains, no heat, nothing. When it itches me,it comes out brighter....could it be Cosmetics? These is my email: saharrison2100@gmail... Thanks again for your help. Am a voracious reader and accumulate interest in almost about most topics, aliens, conspiracies, ets and have had some weird dreams in the past too of aliens, zombies n stuffs some months past. Pls say something. Thanks

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  112. Hi, I've been dealing with shooting pains in my back, right under my shoulder. I just looked today and noticed the weird red dots formed in a grid shape over the area that achs the most. They weren't there yesterday. The only thing weird was that this morning I went to sleep after i disabled my alarm clock which I never do. And because of that I was late to class. I don't really know what or how it came to be but I googled my symptoms and any logical person would and all I could find was this page and stuff about aliens which was only kinda creepy. I hope this story helps with anything and I hope i can find awnsers to what is happening to my shoulder.

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    1. About the shooting pains, you might want to consider seeing an orthopedic specialist, perhaps getting an xray or MRI of your thoracic spine. As per your grid mark, many experiencers report sleeping unusually hard around the time the mark appeared. This is because we believe them to be caused by the release of excess heat during REM. To learn more, read our RGMP Dossier, linked on the right hand column of this page.

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  113. I have just found marks like this on my back in 3 different locations on my back no recollections of how it happened at all. Any ideas? I have pictures as well

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  114. Just curious, do all of you people with these weird rashes sleep on memory foam mattresses (or regular mattresses with memory foam toppers) with no clothes on at night?

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  115. My brother just discovered this dots on my shoulder got no idea where this came from ..am i okey ???

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  116. My brother found some dots on my shoulder... am i Okey ... Im too scared tho

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    1. I hope I can allay your fears by saying we believe this phenomenon to have a natural physiological cause. To read more, see our RGMP Dossier link on the right hand column of this page.

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  117. Anuome with 5 dots across and 3 down with an update? Woke up 2 days ago with the patern on my chin.. Irene.walkinshaw@gmail.com

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